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So I noticed in the recent update the iFrame interval can be maxed until 15s or -. What does it means? From what I get by reading the manual and discussion, the higher iFrame interval will improved video recording but in expense for broken frame if some interruption happen.

Lately I try 15s and video recording was so good, but what does it means with - ?

And recently I've experience an almost "fly away" In the high wind around 15meters, and another in above the trees. It said VPS signal lost or something. Did it have anything to do with the iFrame interval 15s?

Thank you, and enjoy your holiday😁👍
 

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So I noticed in the recent update the iFrame interval can be maxed until 15s or -. What does it means? From what I get by reading the manual and discussion, the higher iFrame interval will improved video recording but in expense for broken frame if some interruption happen.

Lately I try 15s and video recording was so good, but what does it means with - ?

And recently I've experience an almost "fly away" In the high wind around 15meters, and another in above the trees. It said VPS signal lost or something. Did it have anything to do with the iFrame interval 15s?

Thank you, and enjoy your holiday😁👍
Iframe setting - just deactivates periodic iframes completely. In case of undetected defects the streams is not repaired and may show garbage for long periods.

If the app says vps deactivated then tello has deactivated the vps. Nothing the app can do about this, this is done by tello on its own. Has nothing to do with anything the app does, and iframe has no im impact.
 

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Pity.. What I saw didn't look that bad, even if it is maybe not perfectly accurate
What you did not see is how many attempts it took. Some people may enjoy an imperfect follow me but many others would complain.
 

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A lot of us tested it and it was a flip of a coin situation. It will either work for a while or just simply go in its own direction. So ultimately you could lose your drone. So if this guy say it's not worth it I'll take his word for it.
 

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On a side note: I received a message from a user who is confronted with a "Licensing compromised" message.

There is only one reason why this is shown: A special program has been used to "patch" Google Play Store or TelloFpv, rendering the licensing mechanism useless. Both are against the respective EULAs of course.
In this case the user wanted to get rid of advertising in other apps, and has patched the google play store.

Because of the compromised play store TelloFpv can no longer determine if this is a legal copy or not, and refuses to work. Even though he has paid for TelloFpv app he can't use it.

I am OK to refund the purchase price in these scenarios but I am not going to actively support this type of installation. It feels like support for cheating on fellow developers who don't receive their well deserved (advertising) revenue. App development is not a charity.


Why is TelloFpv so strict: Google statistics show that in some markets I have many clever fans who prefer not to pay. Basically it's only three countries where the vast majority of pirate apps is installed, I don't know why. Mindset and culture I reckon. There is one extreme country where I can see four times more illegal copies than legal ones.
I understand that you want to protect your apps from piracy, but this decision is only hurting legitimate users. Pirates will just use a cracked version, for legit users that's not an option.

I buy all my apps. I do not have Lucky Patcher or anything that modifies the Play Store, and I disabled Adaway, and yet I still can't use your app which I purchased with my own money, and it's too late to refund it, as I bought it weeks ago assuming it would actually work when I decided I wanted to fly the Tello. Meanwhile, most pirates would never even run into this issue, they would simply download a cracked apk file.
I'm not sure if your app is detecting my root or what, but in any case that leaves me the only option of pirating your app if I want to use it, because you won't let me use it legitimately. See the problem with that?
The only apps with this kind of behavior are ones where having a rooted device might actually matter for security purposes like banking apps, or games or apps with some sort or online functionality where memory editing or GPS spoofing using root apps can be a legitimate concern. It makes no sense for an app like this.
Besides, you don't need root nor Lucky Patcher nor a modified play store to pirate stuff. All you need is a cracked apk.

By the way, I think you misunderstood something about ad blockers. They are against the Play Store policies which means they aren't allowed to be listed there. However, sideloading of apps in Android is completely legitimate and officially supported, and there is no policy saying you aren't allowed to sideload any app you like, that would be going against the openness of Android. That simply applies to listing apps on Google Play itself. Having an ad blocker installed on your phone is not in violation of any policies. And with how obnoxious ads get nowadays, I don't think I could live without one. Can you really blame people for using ad blockers? Are those really the people you should be going after?
What does the Play Store have to do with ad blockers anyway? Nothing, that's what. They severed all ties to ad blockers a while ago and simply want nothing to do with them. Probably due to pressure from developers complaining that people could just download an app from the Play Store and bypass the ads in their app and they wouldn't get paid. Or even Google itself deciding to make that change. Which is understandable, as they also own AdMob, all the while they were enabling blocking of their own ads by allowing such apps.
 
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A lot of us tested it and it was a flip of a coin situation. It will either work for a while or just simply go in its own direction. So ultimately you could lose your drone. So if this guy say it's not worth it I'll take his word for it.
Wow, that's indeed a reasonable decision then to discard the approach. Didn't expect such drastic defects. Then I can understand better his decision
 
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I understand that you want to protect your apps from piracy, but this decision is only hurting legitimate users. Pirates will just use a cracked version, for legit users that's not an option.

I buy all my apps. I do not have Lucky Patcher or anything that modifies the Play Store, and I disabled Adaway, and yet I still can't use your app which I purchased with my own money, and it's too late to refund it, as I bought it weeks ago assuming it would actually work when I decided I wanted to fly the Tello. Meanwhile, most pirates would never even run into this issue, they would simply download a cracked apk file.
I'm not sure if your app is detecting my root or what, but in any case that leaves me the only option of pirating your app if I want to use it, because you won't let me use it legitimately. See the problem with that?
The only apps with this kind of behavior are ones where having a rooted device might actually matter for security purposes like banking apps, or games or apps with some sort or online functionality where memory editing or GPS spoofing using root apps can be a legitimate concern. It makes no sense for an app like this.
Besides, you don't need root nor Lucky Patcher nor a modified play store to pirate stuff. All you need is a cracked apk.

By the way, I think you misunderstood something about ad blockers. They are against the Play Store policies which means they aren't allowed to be listed there. However, sideloading of apps in Android is completely legitimate and officially supported, and there is no policy saying you aren't allowed to sideload any app you like, that would be going against the openness of Android. That simply applies to listing apps on Google Play itself. Having an ad blocker installed on your phone is not in violation of any policies. And with how obnoxious ads get nowadays, I don't think I could live without one. Can you really blame people for using ad blockers? Are those really the people you should be going after?
What does the Play Store have to do with ad blockers anyway? Nothing, that's what. They severed all ties to ad blockers a while ago and simply want nothing to do with them. Probably due to pressure from developers complaining that people could just download an app from the Play Store and bypass the ads in their app and they wouldn't get paid. Or even Google itself deciding to make that change. Which is understandable, as they also own AdMob, all the while they were enabling blocking of their own ads by allowing such apps.
No problems to refund you anytime, just send me your order number - gpa number.

My app does not work on phones with modified play stores. That is stated clearly in the description. It's part of the anti piracy measures i have taken.
I don't care about ad blockers. Google does but i don't. But many of these blockers modify the play store and that is a problem for correct license validation. I simply can't trust a modified play store.
That play store modification is against the license google granted to you for using the play store. Sideloading apps is allowed off course, but modifications of play store app is not.

Cracking... shady business. To crack an app maybe 99.99% of all 'hackers' use luckypatcher and similar apps to automatically crack an app.
None of these tools work with my apps. Try to find a cracked version, there is none. only a very old and buggy beta version where i made a dumb mistake.
I am not saying it's impossible to crack. It is. But only very very few people are actually able to manually crack an app, and this takes weeks of effort and a lot of dedication. Nobody does this to save 5 bucks

Btw: as soon as i find a cracked apk this will trigger an immediate stop for all development activities. Thanks to Google analytics i have a good idea of the amount of piracy attempts going on. As soon as a cracked version spreads the revenue stream will drain significantly and further development would not make sense.
 
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Wow, that's indeed a reasonable decision then to discard the approach. Didn't expect such drastic defects. Then I can understand better his decision
Never tought about that too. 😅
 

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After doing some flights with VR goggles (ZEISS VR ONE Plus) I come up with the question if the display of the stereoscopic picture could be adapted to the way like the common VR apps do it. In TelloFPV the pictures in VR Mode are just two exact squares, which results in a strange distorted perspective when looking towards the edges of the view area for example when reading the telemetry at the bottom through the VR device and causes - at least for me - not feeling much comfortable anymore during longer usage.

I think that's why usually the display is not just a square, but rounded like in this example:


Maybe the intensity of the curved edges can be configured in a future version, currently I didn't find any setting for VR mode that influences this distortion.

Another suggestion could be the possibility to bind a controller button to the tap on the autopilot-menu, that it opens and then can be navigated through using the sticks like on setting up the values for a specific autopilot. I know, the APs can be linked already directly to certain keys, but sometimes it is easier to remember only one key binding instead of having all 5 or 6 in mind, or to find it blind if you can't look at the controller as you have the VR Goggles on your head.
 

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So the vGPS does not work at all in Tello or does it influence anything? is that I'm out of Tello and I'm seeing if it's worth buying another for that function, nothing more ...
 

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After doing some flights with VR goggles (ZEISS VR ONE Plus) I come up with the question if the display of the stereoscopic picture could be adapted to the way like the common VR apps do it. In TelloFPV the pictures in VR Mode are just two exact squares, which results in a strange distorted perspective when looking towards the edges of the view area for example when reading the telemetry at the bottom through the VR device and causes - at least for me - not feeling much comfortable anymore during longer usage.

I think that's why usually the display is not just a square, but rounded like in this example:


Maybe the intensity of the curved edges can be configured in a future version, currently I didn't find any setting for VR mode that influences this distortion.

Another suggestion could be the possibility to bind a controller button to the tap on the autopilot-menu, that it opens and then can be navigated through using the sticks like on setting up the values for a specific autopilot. I know, the APs can be linked already directly to certain keys, but sometimes it is easier to remember only one key binding instead of having all 5 or 6 in mind, or to find it blind if you can't look at the controller as you have the VR Goggles on your head.
I tried vr with lens correction but rendering speed was to slow on the cardboard api. Other api require much fancier phones than the current approach. If i required people to have a decent android 8 phone more than half of the users would be left behind.

Ap menu on button makes sense!
 
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Other api require much fancier phones than the current approach.
Ok, thanks for the feedback, I get your point (although I wonder if there are phones in the market that run on Android <8 that already have a screen with a dpi high enough for physically compatibility with VR goggles - as they otherwise anyway only get a kaleidoscope experience instead of a 3D view).
Would it be worth to add this approach as a kind of add-on that is only available via Play Store for phones that have the requirements to be able to run with this special API while the rest can use the current solution?
 

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I understand that you want to protect your apps from piracy, but this decision is only hurting legitimate users. Pirates will just use a cracked version, for legit users that's not an option.

I buy all my apps. I do not have Lucky Patcher or anything that modifies the Play Store, and I disabled Adaway, and yet I still can't use your app which I purchased with my own money, and it's too late to refund it, as I bought it weeks ago assuming it would actually work when I decided I wanted to fly the Tello. Meanwhile, most pirates would never even run into this issue, they would simply download a cracked apk file.
I'm not sure if your app is detecting my root or what, but in any case that leaves me the only option of pirating your app if I want to use it, because you won't let me use it legitimately. See the problem with that?
The only apps with this kind of behavior are ones where having a rooted device might actually matter for security purposes like banking apps, or games or apps with some sort or online functionality where memory editing or GPS spoofing using root apps can be a legitimate concern. It makes no sense for an app like this.
Besides, you don't need root nor Lucky Patcher nor a modified play store to pirate stuff. All you need is a cracked apk.

By the way, I think you misunderstood something about ad blockers. They are against the Play Store policies which means they aren't allowed to be listed there. However, sideloading of apps in Android is completely legitimate and officially supported, and there is no policy saying you aren't allowed to sideload any app you like, that would be going against the openness of Android. That simply applies to listing apps on Google Play itself. Having an ad blocker installed on your phone is not in violation of any policies. And with how obnoxious ads get nowadays, I don't think I could live without one. Can you really blame people for using ad blockers? Are those really the people you should be going after?
What does the Play Store have to do with ad blockers anyway? Nothing, that's what. They severed all ties to ad blockers a while ago and simply want nothing to do with them. Probably due to pressure from developers complaining that people could just download an app from the Play Store and bypass the ads in their app and they wouldn't get paid. Or even Google itself deciding to make that change. Which is understandable, as they also own AdMob, all the while they were enabling blocking of their own ads by allowing such apps.

I do not understand why the app tellofpv on a phone with root and ad blockers does not work, my main phone is a Samsung S9 + without root and in an S4-i9500 I have it with a family account and the S4 has root, a custom rom made by my, ad blockers and how much modified app may exist, and the tellofpv app works correctly, the license verification, the ALL updates, in fact the S4 does not even have a sim card only works with wifi, so I can not explain why you say it does not work for you
 

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So the vGPS does not work at all in Tello or does it influence anything? is that I'm out of Tello and I'm seeing if it's worth buying another for that function, nothing more ...
In my opinion Vgps works great for simple flight plans but If you intent to use Vgps to fly around a whole battery going back and forward, making lots of turns and using fast speeds the vps will get confused, and if you are familiar with the RTH function you know this will happen. As Vgps depend on vps to work it will acumulate errors and give you wrong positioning. The simpler the flight, the better it works. If you want to buy another tello for whatever reason do it but I personally wouldn't buy one just for the vgps. Don't get me wrong, I have two tellos but one is still in the box as a backup, the older one as gone through some motors and works fine but I'm guessing it won't last forever.
P.s. And i do use vgps and don't regret it, but you must expect some limitations, this is a tello not a spark ;).
 

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Ok, thanks for the feedback, I get your point (although I wonder if there are phones in the market that run on Android <8 that already have a screen with a dpi high enough for physically compatibility with VR goggles - as they otherwise anyway only get a kaleidoscope experience instead of a 3D view).
Would it be worth to add this approach as a kind of add-on that is only available via Play Store for phones that have the requirements to be able to run with this special API while the rest can use the current solution?
Well, i can see from the statistics that vr is a niche use lf the app. I never bothered to look deep enough into the stats to understand how many vr users have modern phones vs older phones. But while i can understand the wish for distortion correction we are only talking about a handful of users who would use it. Personally i find the distortion a bit annoying but get used to it.
I do not understand why the app tellofpv on a phone with root and ad blockers does not work, my main phone is a Samsung S9 + without root and in an S4-i9500 I have it with a family account and the S4 has root, a custom rom made by my, ad blockers and how much modified app may exist, and the tellofpv app works correctly, the license verification, the ALL updates, in fact the S4 does not even have a sim card only works with wifi, so I can not explain why you say it does not work for you
Tellofpv does not care about root or ad-blockers. It just does not work if the playstore has been modified to falsely grant access to apps that the user has not purchased. Even if the user has actually purchased the app i can't reliably validate this.
But i just don't support these shady installations. Both ad blockers and a modified play store only serve to deprive developers from their revenue.

In my opinion Vgps works great for simple flight plans but If you intent to use Vgps to fly around a whole battery going back and forward, making lots of turns and using fast speeds the vps will get confused, and if you are familiar with the RTH function you know this will happen. As Vgps depend on vps to work it will acumulate errors and give you wrong positioning. The simpler the flight, the better it works. If you want to buy another tello for whatever reason do it but I personally wouldn't buy one just for the vgps. Don't get me wrong, I have two tellos but one is still in the box as a backup, the older one as gone through some motors and works fine but I'm guessing it won't last forever.
P.s. And i do use vgps and don't regret it, but you must expect some limitations, this is a tello not a spark ;).
That sums it up nicely!
Best point about vgps is IMO the 'last known position' marker for long distance fpv flights.

But it certainly isn't a reason to buy a tello
 

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That sums it up nicely!
Best point about vgps is IMO the 'last known position' marker for long distance fpv flights.

But it certainly isn't a reason to buy a tello
I really want to buy another tello, not for the vGPS, I know it is mentioned.

but it's really because I had a bad experience with the first one, since this wine was defective but until now I realize it 1 year later, and now I find this super well developed app, in fact I flyed my defective Tello with this app and I can say that I was somewhat better but in case I failed, in fact I dare say that for that "defect of the drone" I almost have an accident, because the problem of my drone to date I do not know what it is or was because the drone was I screw the button on and off and well the drone of nothing was starting to lose speed when I wanted to move or I did not answer the control of the phone to the point that it crashed because I could never control it with the phone, this drone really left me something of trauma with insecurity when flying. I hope this new one changes my bad concept of this drone

PD: I congratulate the creator of this App since in truth he has worked hard to create this app for the Tello similar to DJI GO 4 features. It is a disspoint that the drone's firmware is not released to make modifications because if that firmware were open for all I already I imagine the giant change that this App had already had with the Drone. this app I have some problems with the stabilization of video, and nothing starts moving, I do not know if it is also because of the drone that was defective or is the app itself, Greetings to all.
 

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@volate!lo

After some weeks off I came back to the flying field :)

Yesterday, I flew for the first time TelloFPV version v1.4c

Unfortunatelly I noticed Video smoothness has worsened when comparing previous recordings taken in June using older versions of TelloFPV

Now I can see flicker / stutter, noticeable on mobile object like cars or walkers. It didn't exists in my June recordings.

I'm using a iframe value of 500ms since may, when v1.10 fixed low iframes problems (see here New app: TelloFPV )

I can remember this problem came back some weeks ago and you had to fix it again. Maybe it happend again ?

Thanks a lot

Raul.
 

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